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gene, why don't we start with apple. this has been an incredible run up and then an incredible drop. below $400. is this somewhere you saw the stock going? >> no way. this is -- we thought there was a floor at 450, so this is a lot lower than we thought it was going to go. >> and at this point, now that it has reached 400 at least in the intra day trade, does that worry you that there is still more room to decline or do you think at this point it's stabilized? >> we think there's an opportunity here. the street numbers still need to get reset. we're 10% below the street for the june quarter. i think once these estimates get reset, that's the point where investors are going to start to get interesting. the southside still hasn't taken those nebs down. that's the real challenge here. >> you thought 450 was the bottom at 455 or at -- when did you make that prediction sflp. >> yeah. it was about three weeks ago. we basically took our numbers down. >> so when it was at 750, you thought the bottom was 700. when it was 7 hup, y
gene, why don't we start with apple. this has been an incredible run up and then an incredible drop. below $400. is this somewhere you saw the stock going? >> no way. this is -- we thought there was a floor at 450, so this is a lot lower than we thought it was going to go. >> and at this point, now that it has reached 400 at least in the intra day trade, does that worry you that there is still more room to decline or do you think at this point it's stabilized? >> we think...
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apple's getting cored. $400 in the rear-view mirror. where can the apple bulls find bottom? we'll trade the fallout in what was america's most loved stock. >>> chipotle, is it overcooked? two traders will debate it ahead of the earnings out tonight. >>> first, the top story, google ibm and microsoft, a tech trifecta, perhaps the entire earning season lies with these three companies tonight are. they going to deliver? our traders, stephanie, mike, john, jerry and josh are here to debate. first, john has a preview. >> no pressure. there are a few things making me skiddish about this afternoon's report. particularly on the revenue side, we'll take microsoft first. the overall pc market took a dive down 14% in the first quarter. that won't help microsoft revenue. investors need the business division and server and tools division to have solid performances, but intel said data business rose 7.5%, less than some hoped. and oracle missed their revenue, it is worth questioning whether business spending is actually holding up. google analysts expect the core business revenues to hold
apple's getting cored. $400 in the rear-view mirror. where can the apple bulls find bottom? we'll trade the fallout in what was america's most loved stock. >>> chipotle, is it overcooked? two traders will debate it ahead of the earnings out tonight. >>> first, the top story, google ibm and microsoft, a tech trifecta, perhaps the entire earning season lies with these three companies tonight are. they going to deliver? our traders, stephanie, mike, john, jerry and josh are here...
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i think apple -- i have apple products. i love them. i think apple is doing a great job, but at the same time in this, this is a stock market and this is a sheer, difficult, harsh, judging machine that is the stock market, and i think tim cook is making a great product. apple's making a great product, but we already have one and we already have a lot of the stock and we don't want as much. am i being harsh? i'm saying the analyst community is harsh. now, procter & gamble, i know it's not what everybody wanted today, but do you remember the open rebellion of procter & gamble at 63 and mcdonald's said you know what? let's blow the darn thing up and give what the analysts want and the stock goes from 63 to 80 and now it will pull back a little today and it's had a remarkable run and that was a guy saying i have to blow it up. as strange as it is. procter is a great company and apple say great company. you have to blow it up and take a new direction. >> we'll talk more about procter and some of the problems in beauty and their guidance this
i think apple -- i have apple products. i love them. i think apple is doing a great job, but at the same time in this, this is a stock market and this is a sheer, difficult, harsh, judging machine that is the stock market, and i think tim cook is making a great product. apple's making a great product, but we already have one and we already have a lot of the stock and we don't want as much. am i being harsh? i'm saying the analyst community is harsh. now, procter & gamble, i know it's not...
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. >> i've got the apple numbers. >> what are the apple numbers, jon? >> the revenue for this quarter is actually coming in above expectations at $43.6 billion, eps, $10.09. guidance, though, disappointing, as gene indicated. he was expecting at the midpoint they were guying to is $34.5 billion and the gross margin, 36 to 37%, which is a little bit below where wall street was looking, from what i have seen, maria. i'll go back through and take a look at the units as well. looks like iphones did 37.4 million units, ipads did 19.5 million units. both of those, pretty strong based on the range where we were looking, as far as what wall street was expecting. i'll have mac units and those things in just a moment. >> jon, you keep looking through those numbers. thank you for that quick flash on apple for us. so, we've got the numbers. the actual earnings and revenues, above expectations, but the guidance, as you indicated, gene, right on the money, it is disappointing. you were in the middle of a thought there, james. please continue your thought and any chan
. >> i've got the apple numbers. >> what are the apple numbers, jon? >> the revenue for this quarter is actually coming in above expectations at $43.6 billion, eps, $10.09. guidance, though, disappointing, as gene indicated. he was expecting at the midpoint they were guying to is $34.5 billion and the gross margin, 36 to 37%, which is a little bit below where wall street was looking, from what i have seen, maria. i'll go back through and take a look at the units as well. looks...
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they do say they are working with apple to bring a full version of home to apple devices. so more work for facebook in the mobile space, but they are clearly pushing to make home available to many more people. michelle, back over to you. >> can i boil this down simply, if i have this phone with this particular software, i can do the equivalent of facetime, that's the idea? >> well, no. there's a new system called facebook home. if you have a certain android phones, htc phones or samsung phones down the line, you can download facebook home. a new type of app integrated into android software to take over the home page of your phone. when you open your phone and see all your apps, you see their friends and photos. one of the main features of home is called chatheads. basically it will allow you to chat with your friends and a little picture of their head pops up and you can chat with them, but not just in one chat app, but you can basically chat with your friends on facebook. go to buy some movie tickets and continue chatting with your friends. it will allow the chat experien
they do say they are working with apple to bring a full version of home to apple devices. so more work for facebook in the mobile space, but they are clearly pushing to make home available to many more people. michelle, back over to you. >> can i boil this down simply, if i have this phone with this particular software, i can do the equivalent of facetime, that's the idea? >> well, no. there's a new system called facebook home. if you have a certain android phones, htc phones or...
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>> easier to answer than where apple is going. i would argue and i have made the statement about a week ago that it wasn't going past a hundred. then it went to 99.90. >> got nervous. >> i'm still of the opinion it will hang around between 92 and 102 between now and july. same kind of argument that we have in the second quarter is a slow down quarter. then i would argue 105 to 110 by the end of the year. my favorite investments are really focused around japan. >> momentary blip in what has been a winning trade and then it reaccelerates and picks up steam again. >> right. >> what about japan in general? you're a big believer there is hedge fund money going to work in japan? >> beginning to. i think there is a lot more to go. a lot of japanese money is going back into japan as they see opportunities in the equity market. if you're a believer in the gram dodd and things like that, yap has a ton of equity selling at those prices. >> there is a pull in the hedge fund industry now. kyle bass on the short side. guys like dan lobe on the
>> easier to answer than where apple is going. i would argue and i have made the statement about a week ago that it wasn't going past a hundred. then it went to 99.90. >> got nervous. >> i'm still of the opinion it will hang around between 92 and 102 between now and july. same kind of argument that we have in the second quarter is a slow down quarter. then i would argue 105 to 110 by the end of the year. my favorite investments are really focused around japan. >>...
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that creates opportunity, because when you have that -- >> opportunities for apple. >> to get into apple. cuts stocks like that. when you have a change in ownership, that's significant. it creates a wonderful opportunity. because you've got a big group leaving, a big group coming in. >> ann abigail, let me go to you. you're quite pessimistic. we welcome you on the show. you have been ae a pessimist. but things have been more optimistic. you're looking for big, big decline. i want you to talk about that. i want you to tell our viewers why you think we're really headed for a problem. >> well, the reason that i -- my work starts with the technical. so we have seen a strong rally out of november. nearly 20% move up. but it's bearish. the buyers are becoming less certain up here. and this really mimics what we have seen in the first and second quarter of 2012 and 2011, quite frankly, where we have this competing battle between not so great fundamentals and then the fed liquidity. that doesn't tend to breed trust. in fact, i would say it probably swings things the other way. so even though buy
that creates opportunity, because when you have that -- >> opportunities for apple. >> to get into apple. cuts stocks like that. when you have a change in ownership, that's significant. it creates a wonderful opportunity. because you've got a big group leaving, a big group coming in. >> ann abigail, let me go to you. you're quite pessimistic. we welcome you on the show. you have been ae a pessimist. but things have been more optimistic. you're looking for big, big decline. i...
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apple did fall below that $400 mark. it did knock down stocks across the globe, particularly in asia. its suppliers and tech stocks generally seen as exposed to the country's weakness after it was warned that revenue for that cup wasn't going to be that strong thanks to its one big customer, i.e., apple. >>> the ftse cnbc global 300 just a little lower on the day. we'll look at european markets for that. we are rebounding a little bit after yesterday's weak session. the xetra dax downing 0.6%. that's about a quarter of the move that we saw yesterday. indeed, eegan jones did come out and downgrade moody's in its annual statement reiterating the outlook for that country. the ftse 100, ftse mib are adding better than 0.8% for italy which is going through the process of selecting its next president. there is hope that at least this will help keep the country on track. moving to the bond's space span was just out with an auction. we saw healthy demand, low themes continue for the economy generally speaking in that it hasn't h
apple did fall below that $400 mark. it did knock down stocks across the globe, particularly in asia. its suppliers and tech stocks generally seen as exposed to the country's weakness after it was warned that revenue for that cup wasn't going to be that strong thanks to its one big customer, i.e., apple. >>> the ftse cnbc global 300 just a little lower on the day. we'll look at european markets for that. we are rebounding a little bit after yesterday's weak session. the xetra dax...
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. >>> shares of apple posting the second largest weekly decline in 2 1/2 years, down more that 9 percent. shares are down 45% from hitting the all-time high in september, marking a loss of more than $294 billion in fact cap. >>> ibm is trading down more 8%, marking big blue's largest drop in eight years after its quarterly earnings missed expectations on both the top and bottom lines. more business headlines in the next hour, but for now, maria, back to you. >> courtney, thank you. watertown, massachusetts, is where the manhunt took place today. we're joined now by mike driscoll. mike, thank you for calling in. what can you tell us about the region right now? >> well, again, as everything, we're still in a shelter in place. they did that earlier this morning, on or about, a little before 5:00, the decision was made to, number one priority is the safety of our residents and the residents of the commonwealth. >> at this point, we know that the area is in lockdown mode. the faa, saying there is a no fly zone over watertown. we know that amtrak has been suspended indefinitely. so, do we know
. >>> shares of apple posting the second largest weekly decline in 2 1/2 years, down more that 9 percent. shares are down 45% from hitting the all-time high in september, marking a loss of more than $294 billion in fact cap. >>> ibm is trading down more 8%, marking big blue's largest drop in eight years after its quarterly earnings missed expectations on both the top and bottom lines. more business headlines in the next hour, but for now, maria, back to you. >> courtney,...
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i guess it will be apple tv. >> apple tv is a logical extension of the largest screen that the ipad was, and bringing apps to the tv environment what everyone is trying to do. >> but they have a tv product. i have one at home. $99. a little black pox. >> it's not the real tv. >> why buy a $2,000 actual physical television when for 99 bucks i convert my physical television. >> today it doesn't have the one thing that made the iphone take off, which is applications. it was at revolution that really took off, what people could do from a personal assistant, games, entertainment and a corporate standpoint. >> dan, do you hear any chatter out there? >> we heard about channel checks, things around. this is probably a year and a half ago, two years ago. is there anything you've heard that gives you any sense that there's something coming. >> so i attempt not to recommend stocks based on chatter. what i would invest in investing in apple is a track record, a team. phenomenal balance sheet. they spend a lot on r&d. you can't predict what the next will be. everyone said tablets will never work. no
i guess it will be apple tv. >> apple tv is a logical extension of the largest screen that the ipad was, and bringing apps to the tv environment what everyone is trying to do. >> but they have a tv product. i have one at home. $99. a little black pox. >> it's not the real tv. >> why buy a $2,000 actual physical television when for 99 bucks i convert my physical television. >> today it doesn't have the one thing that made the iphone take off, which is applications....
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apple will need to innovate. we're in that you got to believe me phase and now we're talking about a time line of the fall. we got support on the dividend and buyback but gross margins and innovation will be key. >> you thought that you would hear about new products even sooner than the fall? >> it was possible that you might hear particularly about a low cost to approach the emerging markets and to offer something for the smartphone user who is more price sensitive. >> hold on a second. if you think of low cost phones, they talked about strength in china. you can't have strength with low cost phones or strengths in emerging markets and not have it impact gross margins. what's more important to you? >> a low cost phone that maintains a margin. they'll need to move some of the product mix out, innovate and i think tvs. i think i radio. something along the lines of i payments. that's what will move the sentiment and move the needle financially. >> i kind of feel this company's pain. after watching the stock be down
apple will need to innovate. we're in that you got to believe me phase and now we're talking about a time line of the fall. we got support on the dividend and buyback but gross margins and innovation will be key. >> you thought that you would hear about new products even sooner than the fall? >> it was possible that you might hear particularly about a low cost to approach the emerging markets and to offer something for the smartphone user who is more price sensitive. >> hold...
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>> apple. >> because it's an ipad. >> exactly. ipads there and other companies, google nexus is a big one. samsung has some coming down the line here. we'll diversify away from the ipad but intel is underrepresented there. >> what about these new half tablet, half pc things that are half clam shell but you can pull them apart. does intel have a chance to lead there? >> there are a number of factors. the one you're referring to is a convertible. they are really focused more on ultrabooks and sliders where you can actually slide the top display and flip it over and it turns into a tablet. >> they are expensive and haeav, right? >> some ultrabooks will be priced at 499 this year. that's a new low price point for them. >> the stuff with intel in that their bragging rights have to do with manufacturing process and how well they're doing there. is that a reason to buy the stock? when gross margins go up, i heard that you buy stock when margins are rising and sell it when they're going back down. are either one of those factors enough to offset what's happening in pcs? >> a sticking point wi
>> apple. >> because it's an ipad. >> exactly. ipads there and other companies, google nexus is a big one. samsung has some coming down the line here. we'll diversify away from the ipad but intel is underrepresented there. >> what about these new half tablet, half pc things that are half clam shell but you can pull them apart. does intel have a chance to lead there? >> there are a number of factors. the one you're referring to is a convertible. they are really...